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  YOU TUBE My Jehovah's Witness Story: Raped By a Circuit Overseer

  by Lady Lee in

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  2. child-abuse

  interesting story.

  this fellow needs encouragement to go to the police.

  the co was later promoted to do .

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  PaulAppolos

  I guess what I meant is. I always assume someone is telling the truth first. When the issue is obviously of the sensitive nature as this I automatically feel sad for the person. Since I do not know either party involved I cannot choose who I think is who is guilty or who is lying.

  I cannot imagine either having this done to me or choosing to make a You- tube video about it. But I do know people are all different and some people like to reach out in different ways. Perhaps this boy is telling the truth and just needs encouragement to tell authorities, or even his parents.

  Either way it doesn't hurt me to give him sympathy.

  In cases where some brother, lets say an elder, is accused of abuse, and the elders cannot "prove it" (even though, in my opinion, they should automatically report it to the proper authorities, so an impartial and exacting investigation can be done), what should be done?

  The problem is that victims don't get directed to authorities and so an attempt to find out the truth is never made. In other cases of abuse when a report is made the authorities have a chance to talk to both accuser and acusee. They have an opportunity to reveal what really happened. Sometimes it is confessed by the perpitraitor and sometimes they go free, and sometimes it was all a hoax. The point is it is in the open. Thats where it needs to be. It should not be that victims are afraid to speak out because they will be doubted for the validity of their story.

  It is NEVER the responsibility of the elders to " prove it". The Elder should be informed of the accusation and monitored while the police investigation is going on. What they do to the elder after that depends on the outcome. If the accusation is wrong Apologies should be made and every effort made to clear his name. If he was guilty he should be in jail.

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  Overlapping Generations

  by elder-schmelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think that this explains it best !!.

  one of the critical and most debatable assumptions we have maintained thus far in our arguments is the assumption of successive generations.

  in other words, we have assumed that, every period, a new generation arises and the old one dies off.

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  Truly I say to YOU that this generation - S = b u0(c10) + åt=1¥ [ut(ctt) + b ut(ct+1t)] - will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  This always how I understood it!
  Elder Schmelder You always make things so easy to understand. Thanks!

  I can see why you are an Elder. (sarcasm intended)

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  YOU TUBE My Jehovah's Witness Story: Raped By a Circuit Overseer

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  interesting story.

  this fellow needs encouragement to go to the police.

  the co was later promoted to do .

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  Not believing this story is Rude at best. We should always believe victims until proven false.

  Most likely it would be difficult to tell his story to a person and so talking into a video camera would be a bit like therapy for a young person not knowing what to do. He is probably looking for advise on how to go about bringing this to prosecution. Advise he will not get from his witness family.

  When I was a young girl in the congregation, a friend and I reported a story that we were told by another girl about a very old brother(85) touching her thighs and kissing her in field service. We thought we were helping. That was until she was pressured into changing her story and my friend and I had priveledges removed for causing slander against older ones.( p.s. she told us later that it was true but she did't want to hurt his wife or her family) He put his house up for sale and moved within a couple weeks. Not after he tried to kiss me on the lips though. Who believes me? no one! not even my mom. They said I was bitter for being disiplined.

  The old mans club is strong and elders stick up for each other all the time. Even though there were good intentioned brothers involved in this situation I was speaking of. Nothing came of it because in there words there was "no harm done'.

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  How to secretly record an elders meeting?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one in which you are present, as if only one party is aware or doing it, it's legal.

  is there a fairly inexpensive device can buy which either in a pocket or somewhere discreet can get a good recording of up to 2 - 3 hours?

  (audio).

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  The type of discussion I'm going to have is one that nobody has ever recorded, nor probably even had this type before.

  Intriging.

  No more clues?

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  Got the new dvd

  by twinkle toes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, i was just given the new dvd from the convention and i am trying to figure out if i should watch it or not.

  on one hand i enjoy uncovering the hypocrisy, it's a good reminder as to why i am faded away.. on the other hand i dont know if i should waste my time watching crap.. thoughts?.

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  O.k. I watched.

  It was really boring. It was also very selective (big shock). As Billy mentioned the lack of mention of Russel's wife was a little odd.

  First they explain how there was dissapointment over the resurrection of 1914.Saying many left the truth over it. Then they say it was evident that Jehovah was backing the organization. NOT!! I think the fact that you have a major unfullfilled prophecy means Jehovah ISN'T backing you. Otherwise you might have got it right.

  Also (as Billy mentioned) the Change in the Actor for Russel was odd. One minute he is this dashing young man and then he looks like Mr. Burns. Maybe the guy who was being young Russel decided to head to Hollywood to pursue an acting career. So they just picked someone new?

  I made other notes But I have to go deal with my children now and will come back later.

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  Got the new dvd

  by twinkle toes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, i was just given the new dvd from the convention and i am trying to figure out if i should watch it or not.

  on one hand i enjoy uncovering the hypocrisy, it's a good reminder as to why i am faded away.. on the other hand i dont know if i should waste my time watching crap.. thoughts?.

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  Beer I knew I was missing an important component!

  thanks!

  I watched the first 10 min before the power on my portable dvd died. It was pretty annoying already.

  It is always shocking to me how they put Martin Luther and other prominent folks from history in the same group as Russel. As if they were witnesses.

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  Got the new dvd

  by twinkle toes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, i was just given the new dvd from the convention and i am trying to figure out if i should watch it or not.

  on one hand i enjoy uncovering the hypocrisy, it's a good reminder as to why i am faded away.. on the other hand i dont know if i should waste my time watching crap.. thoughts?.

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  Well, I was just given the new dvd from the convention and I am trying to figure out if I should watch it or not.

  On one hand I enjoy uncovering the hypocrisy, it's a good reminder as to why I am faded away.

  On the other hand I dont know if I should waste my time watching crap.

  Thoughts?

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  Two Stories BOTH TRUE - and worth reading!!!!

  by zeroday* in

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  two stories both true - and worth reading!!!!.

  story number one.

  many years ago, al capone virtually owned chicago .

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  cool! thanks

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  Sometimes Race does matter...

  by mrsjones5 in

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  or to be more specific genetics matter.

  i just heard a story on npr about blood marrow donations among the black community, why it's so low and why it's desperately needed.

  here's a few points that i thought were interesting about this issue:.

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  I added a small summary of the Tuskegee Syphilis Project to my former post, because I think it is helpful for people who don't under stand this issue of hesitancy as I did not.

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  Sometimes Race does matter...

  by mrsjones5 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or to be more specific genetics matter.

  i just heard a story on npr about blood marrow donations among the black community, why it's so low and why it's desperately needed.

  here's a few points that i thought were interesting about this issue:.

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  o.k. So I just read about the Tuskegee Syphilis Project. I feel like a total pill now.

  What a horrific way to treat people. No wonder the trust of the medical communtity is not there. These poor people were lured in thinking they were getting some help and then were abused horribly.

  Thanks for educating me about this Sylvia.

  Were you directly/personally affected by this project Snowbird?

  The Tuskegee syphilis experiment[10] was a clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama, by the U.S. Public Health Service. In the experiment, 400 impoverished black males who had syphilis, were offered "treatment" by the researchers, who told the test subjects that they were treating them for the disease, but in reality did nothing-even though they possessed penicillin, which was known to cure the deadly disease at the time-so that they could observe the effects of syphilis on the human body. By the end of the study in 1972, only 74 of the test subjects were alive. Twenty-eight of the original 399 men had died of syphilis, 100 were dead of related complications, 40 of their wives had been infected, and 19 of their children were born with congenital syphilis. The study was not shut down until 1972, when its existence was leaked to the press, forcing the researchers to stop in the face of public outcry.[11]

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